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Karen Abel:
UID: CEAE8CCB30D44C46A8E09CF4E6C0BB351722
BIRTH
His obituary says he was born 8 Apr 1890. The ND Death Index gives his birthdate as 17 Oct 1891.
OBITUARY ABSTRACT
Johann Harr, son of Karl Harr, was born in Sophiental, So. Russia on 8 Apr 1890 and died on 17 Jan 1916 at age 25 years, 9 months, and 9 days. He came to the US with his parents in 1901. "He believe the Lord had calle dhim into His service and thus in 1906 went to Rochester. However, because of severe illness, he had to give up his studies.. Rheumatism gave rise to an incurable heart disease." He was marred one year ago, and is now survived by his wife, their child, his father and 7 siblings. His mother preceded him in death almost a year ago
Sources:
1. Title: Census
2. Title: North Dakota Death Index
3. Title: Obituary - Page: for Johann Harr, Der Sendbote, 2 Feb 1916, p. 78

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www.pixel.cs.vt.edu/:
Born: 1884087/2 52 4

Walter Guthmiller:
UID: DF75538361F045429EDAE29ACD0C61D000FA

Karen Abel:
UID: 213119652486408FB6DE508902E03556231E
IMMIGRATION
Arrived in New York on 7 Nov 1901 from Hamburg on the ship Columbia: Karl Harr, 36 - Elisabeth, 35 - Johannes, 11
Rosine, 10 - Karl, 8 - Christine, 4 - August, 2 - Gottlieb, 1/2
They were traveling to Harvey, ND where Karl's brother-in-law Joh. Schmidt lived.
CENSUS
1910 - Anamoose Township, McHenry, ND: Carl Harr 45, farmer, immigrated 1901, married 23 years, 13 children, 8 living - Elizabeth 43 - John 20 - Rosina 18 - Carl 16 - Christinia 13 - August 11 - Gottlieb 9 - Paulina 6, born in ND
Benjamin 5, born in ND
1920 - Anamoose, McHenry, ND: Karl Harr 55 - Dorothea 43 - Gottlieb 19 - Paulina 16 - Benjamin 14 - Oliver 1 11/12
Olive 1 11/12
Stepchildren: Wiedmann - Emil 16, Martha 14, August 12, Otto 7
OBITUARYABSTRACT
Karl Harr was born in Destel (?), So. Russia on 14 Dec 1864. On 9 Feb 1888 he married Elisabeth Hirsch, who preceded him in death about 8 years ago. He came to the US in 1901 and settled in ND. In 1916 he married Dorothea (Diede) Wiedmann. The cause of death was stomach cancer and lameness. He died on 4 Jan 1924 at 5:30 pm, at the age of 59 years, 21 days. Survived by his wife, 5 sons, 4 daughters, 3 brothers, and 2 sisters.
Anamoose, ND
Sources:
1. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: www.odessa3.org
2. Title: North Dakota Death Index
3. Title: Obituary - Page: for Karl Harr, Der Sendbots, 30 Jan 1924, p. 15

Karl heiratete Hirsch, Elisabeth am 9 Feb 1888 in ,,, Rußland. Elisabeth wurde geboren am 21 Apr 1866 in Johannesfeld, Gebiet Krim, Region Odessa, Rußland; gestorben am 6 Mrz 1915 in , McHenry County, North Dakota, USA. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: D90A460CB48D491BA7680D37D87850D5A290
OBITUARY ABSTRACT
Elisabeth Harr was born 21 Apr 1866 in Johannesfeld, So. Russia and died of consumption of 6 Mar 1915 at the age of 48 years, 10 months, 12 days. She married Karl Harr in 1888. They had 11 children, 3 of whom preceded her in death
Sources:
1. Title: North Dakota Death Index
2. Title: Obituary - Page: for Elisabeth (Hirsch) Harr, Der Sendbote, 24 Mar 1915, p. 190

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Karen Abel:
UID: 3705CE0455A242B490DEC169F2556F75BE4C
ASSUMED MARRIAGE
There is a marriage record in Rohrbach on 10 Oct 1854 for Heinrich Harr and Anna Friedrika Seiler. No other Friedrika Seiler/Sauter/Seiter's have been seen in records, other than with Daniel Harr. And there is no known Heinrich Harr in that time frame. So it is here assumed that the record should have read Daniel instead of Heinrich.
CENSUS
The 1858 Census for Grossliebental lists the "Widow Margaretha Harr" 66, along with sons: Johann 29, his wife Katharina (arrived from Neu Freudental) 28 and sons Johann 5 and Daniel 3; and Daniel 26, and his wife Friederika (arrived from Güldendorf) 21.
Sources:
1. Title: Grossliebental, Liebental District Odessa, 1858 Census - Author: GRHS & AHSGR
2. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Author: Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)

Walter Guthmiller:
UID: C3112768A4E38340BDB7B50CD63AAAD470F9
Death: ABT 1854 - ? (Kinder sind bis 1878 geboren)

Daniel heiratete Seiter, Aurora Friederika am 10 Okt 1854 in Rohrbach, Gebiet Beresan, Region Odessa, Rußland. Aurora (Tochter von Seiter, Christian Heinrich und Hantke, Christina Margaretha) wurde geboren am 5 Mrz 1837 in Simferopol, Simferopol, Region Krim, Rußland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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James-Sergent:
Tochter von Johannes R. Sailer und Anna Maria Justine Bette

Walter Guthmiller:
UID: 025D999672F901478A5E25D6CF89B185B2CF

Karen Abel:
UID: 696AA19700A64B01B14CB18EEC012D469933
MAIDEN NAME
On the birth records of her children Friedrika's name is given as: Sailer (1855, 1857, 1864, 1868), Seiter (1858, 1860, 1870, 1876), and Sauter (1862, 1878).
In the marriage record that is assumed to be for Daniel Harr and Friedrika, her name is given as Seiler.
In the death records of her children, Louise and Daniel, her name is listed as Sider.
No Friedrikas are found in any Sailer or Sauter families. An Aurora Friedricka Seiter was born 5 Mar 1837 in Simferopol, Crimea, to Heinrich Seiter and Christina Margaretha Hank/Hantke. This fits perfectly with the age of Friederika in the 1858 Grossliebental census. A Heinrich Seiter was originally found in Güldendorf with a wife and a daughter born in 1825. He disappears from there in 1830. He would seem to be the same Heinrich Seiter who then appears in Crimea.
In the 1858 Grossliebental census, Friederika was referred to as being from Güldendorf. Merv Weiss wrote: "It has been my experience that members of a family and one or two generations thereafter were referred to as colonists of whichever colony where they first owned land (which was of course communally owned). Thus a man was known as a Guldendorf colonist even after he had moved to another colony. Also it is most likely his sons were also called Guldendorf colonists, even if they were not living there."
Regarding the issue of movement between colonies in South Russia, Curt Renz wrote: "Something to remember concerning the 'movement' issue is: these people quite often tended to migrate from place to place so that it is not unusual to find children of one family being born in different villages (sometimes returning several times later to one place or another). Sometimes they moved a short distance and other times, a much longer distance, only to return one spot they'd lived in at an earlier time."
No other Friederika Sailer, Sauter or Seiter was found born in the appropriate time frame. Based upon all of these factors, it is assumed at this time that she was the Aurora Friederika Seiter born in Simferopol. There is currently no actual hard evidence to support this assumption.
Sources:
1. Title: Grossliebental, Liebental District Odessa, 1858 Census - Author: GRHS & AHSGR
2. Title: Odessa Library - Publication: www.odessa3.org
3. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Author: Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)

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Karen Abel:
UID: B5F429E5236C4F768BD566062C2B9E592572
EMIGRATION TO RUSSIA
The Glatten family book register for the family of Johann David Harr and Anna Maria Gühring shows that their children Jacob Friedrich, Johann David, Johannes, Johann Matthaus and Anna Maria all emigrated to Russia. Passport data can be found for Friedrich and David in 1817. As the other three were not married at the time, it is possible that they traveled under the passport of one of their older married brothers. It is known that Johannes arrived in Russia in 1817. His date of birth corresponds very closely to that calculated from the ages in the documents below. While one of those documents gives his place of origin as Glatt (rather than Glatten), no record of a Johannes Harr from Glatt can be found. Based on other information, it is currently assumed that he was actually this Johannes from Glatten.
DOCUMENTS FROM RUSSIA
Fond #252-1-535 --About accepting the immigrant Johann Harr into the number of the colonists of Grossliebental.
*5 March 1826 - Württemberg immigrant Johann Harr, who arrived in 1817 through Ismail quarantine and did not come in 1822 to be registered for the new revision lists, wishes now to be accepted into the number of the colonists of the Colony Grossliebental, about whose acceptance the local colonists declared their agreement.. The attachments under A and B, the name list about his family, I submit all of this to the Office for their approval..
*15 March 1826 - ..Johann Harr..who wishes to be accepted into the number of the colonists of the Colony Grossliebental, about whose acceptance the local community declared their agreement and that decision was submitted to the Office for approval together with the name list of Harr's family and the supervisor submits this Grossliebental community's aggreement to accept immigrant Harr and his family of 1 male and 3 female members.. the immigrant Johann Harr as well as his wife Margaretha actually arrived in 1817 to Russia through the Ismail quarantine, being then single, both with the standard passport and each of them had to pay 50 rubles of state quarantine debt.
*Attachment A, in German, dated 24 November 1825 - We, who are signing in the name of the community of the Grossliebental colonists, hereby certify that we shall accept and take into our midst the colonist Johann Harr, who arrived here, unmarried, in the year 1817 by way of Ismail, but who, however, married Margaretha Koch in the same year, together with his entire family, which consists of one male and 4 female souls. - Followed by 21 signatures.
*Attachment B, also in German, dated 28 January 1826 - a form with the name list for the family of colonist Johann Harr:
Arrived in 1817 by way of Ismail quarantine.
Johann Harr 35, wife Margaretha 32, daughters Anna 6, Charlotta 4, Cathrina 2.
Place of birth: "von Glatt, Oberamt Sulz in Württemberg"
Occupation: Schäfer
Residence: Grossliebental
*14 May 1826 - To Kherson financial office-The Office sends 2 copies of revision lists about newly accepted colonist Johann Harr and asks to accept Harr into the number of the colonists of Grossliebental, Tiraspol district, from 1827 and with benefits from 1817.
Fond #252-1-729 --Case of issuing emergency passports in Liebental district. Began in January 1830, completed 24 May 1830.
Grossliebental colonist Johann Harr (shepherd) wants to get a one-year passport to live with his family in Cherson, Tauria and Ekaterinoslav provinces earning his profession. Since this colonist doesn't have his farmstead and has guarantors for the future, the office asks for giving him a one-year passport. Legal duty of 5 silver rubles and 10 rubles for charitable institutions are enclosed.
Passport - By decree of his Majesty, Tsar and Emperor Nicholas Pavlovich, Ruler of all Russia.. Presenter of this, colonist of Odessa district, Colony Grossliebental, Johann Harr with family that consists of 2 males and 5 females, who has a state debt, discharged into Odessa district for personal needs from below written date for one year, that is until 19 October 1829. After this date he must come back; otherwise he will be subject to the law. Issued from Odessa Department of Foreign Settlers with attachment of a seal on 19 October 1828 in the State Colony of Tiraspol district.
Description:
Age: 39 - Height: small - Hair: blond - Eyebrows: blond - Eyes: blue - Nose: ordinary - Mouth: same - Chin: small
Face: pock-marked
Fond #252-1-878 (translated by Serge Yelizarov) -- About giving passports to colonists of Liebental district
To: Odessa Bureau of Foreign Settlers
Received: June 10, 1831
From: Liebental District Office
We ask to give/extend a one-year passport to Johann Harr with his family, who arrived through Ismail in 1817 and is registered in Gross-Liebental, to be a sheep-farmer at the estate of general Koble in Odessa uyezd. There are no obstacles from the community side, since all 1831 taxes have been paid and therefore his passport where his distinctive marks are pointed is true. - June 6, 1831
For midclass citizens and peasants; for the term less than one year; price 5 Rubles
By Ukaz of his Majesty, Emperor Nicolay Pavlovich
The bearer of this, colonist of Gross-Liebental Johann Harr with his wife Margaretha 38 years old, son Johann and daughters Anna, Lotta, Catharina and Barbara, with the state debt upon him, is allowed to go to various towns and villages of Cherson, Ekaterinoslav and Taurida provinces for personal needs, beginning from the date pointed below and for the term of one year, i.e. till May 8th of 1831 with getting back by then, to be prosecuted by the law otherwise. Given and sealed by Odessa Bureau of Foreign Settlers on May 8, 1830 in Odessa.
Distinctive Marks:
Age - 40 - Stature - low - Hair/brows - fair - Eyes - blue - Nose/mouth - regular - Chin - small - Face - pitted
Sources:
1. Title: Documents from Odessa - researched and provided by Serge Elizarov
2. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)
3. Title: Article by Johann Jacob Harr (born 1853)
4. Title: Odessa St. Paul Evangelical Lutheran Church Family Book--630-1-355 - Publication: GRHS, 2002

Johannes heiratete Koch, Margaretha in 1817 in ,, Region Odessa, Rußland. Margaretha (Tochter von Koch, Adam Friedrich und Haag, Anna Catharina) wurde geboren am 6 Jan 1792 in Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; getauft am 7 Jan 1792 in Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 1 Mrz 1870 in Alexanderhilf, Gebiet Großliebental, Region Odessa, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 1CE1107BE9E144399734BFFB3649A1DB4FA3
THEORY
At this time, it can only be theorized that the Margaretha Koch who married Johannes Harr in Russia is the same as the Margaretha Koch born in Schwaikheim. However, given the facts below, it seems a logical conclusion, at least until other facts become known.
FACTS KNOWN ABOUT MARGARETHA KOCH
Age: In the 1858 Census for Grossliebental (taken on 1 Jan), her age is given as 66 (suggesting a birth in 1791). Her age at death is given as 77 years, 3 months, 4 days (suggesting a birth date about 27 Nov 1792).
Arrival in Russia: From an 1826 document requesting acceptance into the colony of Grossliebental, Margaretha Koch and Johannes Harr, both single, arrived through Ismail quarantine in 1817 and were married later that year [probably in Odessa].
Stumpp: Adam Friedrich Koch and Gottlieb Koch both left for/arrived in Russia in 1817 from Schwaikheim.
From Schwaikheim Family Register: Her brother Johann Gottlieb Koch emigrated with his family to Caucasus on 11 Jun 1817. Her sister Katharina Barbara married Joh. Gutenberger and emigrated in 1817 (destination not given). Margaretha emigrated with permission (ist mit Erlaubniß ausgewandert) (date and destination not given).
Margaretha Koch was born in Schwaikheim on 6 Jan 1793, only 1 month and 10 days different from the birth date suggested by age at death of the Margaretha (Koch) Harr who died in Alexanderhilf.
No passport information was found for Johannes Harr. However, his two older brothers, Jacob Friedrich and Johann David Harr, obtained passports in Freudenstadt on 12 Jun 1817. This was only one day later than Johann Gottlieb Koch in Waiblingen--so it seems quite possible that they would have traveled together on the journey to Russia.
Of further interest is the fact that the oldest daughter of Johannes and Margaretha (Koch) Harr married Johannes Klink/Klenk. It appears that the Klenk family was also from Schwaikheim.
CENSUS
The 1858 Census for Grossliebental lists the "Widow Margaretha Harr" 66, along with sons: Johann 29, his wife Katharina (arrived from Neu Freudental) 28 and sons Johann 5 and Daniel 3; and Daniel 26, and his wife Friederika (arrived from Güldendorf) 21.
Sources:
1. Title: Grossliebental, Liebental District Odessa, 1858 Census - Author: GRHS & AHSGR
2. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885-Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg-#1884111/2 p. 207
3. Title: Schwaikheim Church Books, 1561-1915 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Schwaikheim (OA Waiblingen)
4. Title: Odessa St. Paul Evangelical Lutheran Church Family Book--630-1-355 - Publication: GRHS, 2002

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Karen Abel:
UID: 520B352FB4524B28A83950A5DB44CA312A3F
NOTE
According to Curt Renz, there was a Christian Heinrich Seiter, b. 22 Jan 1799 in Heimsheim (OA Leonberg), Württemberg, who was an early Güldendorf settler. He left there in 1820 for Nikopal and appears on the 1860 Absentee List for Güldendorf. He had a daughter born in 1825.
Other Seiters there were Karl Heinrich Seiter, b. 13 Jun 1811, and Christoph Heinrich Seiter, b. 6 Jul 1813, both in Heimsheim. They were the sons of Johann Heinrich Seiter, b. 9 Jun 1769, and Johanna Friederika Grögenthaler, b. 23 Aug 1773.
From Güldendorf families, there is a Heinrika Seiter, b. 1798, who married Johannes Roller, b. 1788
Sources:
1. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)
2. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)

Christian heiratete Hantke, Christina Margaretha. Christina (Tochter von Hantke, Jacob Friedrich und Stäbler, Margaretha) wurde geboren am 12 Nov 1802 in Musberg, Kreis Esslingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 8 Mrz 1841 in Simferopol, Simferopol, Region Krim, Rußland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: C5B2A562DB0B477BA184F1B8F129AC02BC0F
DEATH: Seiter, Christina Margarethe geb. Hantke, des Heinrich Seiter, burger und Tischlers Ehefrau. At age 38 years. Born in Muhsberg, Württemberg.
Sources:
1. Title: St. Petersburg Church Books, 1833-1885 - Author: Evangelische Kirche, Konsistorium Petersburg (Rußland)
2. Title: Musberg Church Books, 1563-1917 - Evangelische Kirche Musberg (OA Stuttgart) (Musberg, Württemberg)

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Karen Abel:
UID: D0C03A726A034BBC9FB44C1A2D1FC6F16C95
Born: 16 Mar 1749/50
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman
2. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt) - #1884493 -3

Johann heiratete Göhring, Anna Maria am 15 Jun 1773 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Göhring, Andreas und Zahn, Anna) wurde geboren am 20 Aug 1754 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 8 Jun 1819 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: AF856B40E6C041068DCD5E1B31B3B26DA209
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman
2. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)
3. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Adam heiratete Haag, Anna Catharina geschätzt 1792. Anna (Tochter von Haag, Johann Adam und Schwartz, Anna Barbara) wurde geboren am 8 Nov 1760 in Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 30 Aug 1809 in Schwaikheim, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 0DC05BBC25B34CAAB2A8F2E9C69CD98EB082
OCCUPATION IN HEIMSHEIM
Kiefermeister (master cooper).
IMMIGRATION
From Curt Renz:
Left from Plieningen (OA Stuttgart), Württ. in 1817
Russian passport via Stuttgart
Stach's "Die deutschen Kolonien in Sudrussland" p. 166
Stumpp's "The Emigration from Germany to Russia in the years 1763 to 1862" p. 599 [Note that this says "Christian Seytel" 1813.]
From Ostwanderung der Wuerttemberger, Tables p. 132-204 (www.Odessa3.org):
Heinrich Seitter of Heimsheim (OA Leonberg) applied for his passport on 16 May 1817 and it was approved 26 May 1817
Sources:
1. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)

Johann heiratete Grözenthaler, Johanna Friederice am 26 Feb 1797 in , Kreis Heinsberg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Johanna (Tochter von Grözenthaler, Ezechiel Christian und Zahn, Maria Barbara) wurde geboren am 23 Aug 1773 in , Kreis Heinsberg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 6EA45FC969FC4555AC93872EB2916C522E6C
Sources:
1. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)
2. Title: Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 - Evangelische Kirche Wildberg (OA Nagold) - FHL Film #1201966

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Karen Abel:
UID: FC0E85F9870344D5B82F522CED6A95930F97
Sources:
1. Title: Musberg Church Books, 1563-1917 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Musberg (OA Stuttgart) (Musberg, Württemberg)

Jacob heiratete Stäbler, Margaretha. Margaretha wurde geboren geschätzt 1775; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 276D3C4B95C147E99FDD5E232DC512C062F5
Sources:
1. Title: Musberg Church Books, 1563-1917 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Musberg (OA Stuttgart) (Musberg, Württemberg)

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Karen Abel:
UID: EA7187FE5EF1421B97734C36065E534918A5
Sources:
1. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)
2. Title: Alpirsbach Church Books, 1596-1903 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Alpirsbach (OA Oberndorf) - #1884483

Christian heiratete Schray, Catharina Margaretha am 11 Aug 1733 in Alpirsbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Catharina (Tochter von Schray, Simon Jr. und Lieb, Anna Margaretha) wurde geboren am 19 Dez 1715 in Alpirsbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 9 Dez 1793 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: ADE99C5D5154430EB76FDE82F7F4EABA9A01
RESEARCH
A note was added to the baptism record for Catharina Margaretha stating that she married Christian Friedrich Harr on 11 Aug 1733 and died on 10 Dec 1793
Sources:
1. Title: Alpirsbach Church Books, 1596-1903 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Alpirsbach (OA Oberndorf) - #1884483 -3
2. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

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Karen Abel:
UID: 82204F3CF72F497BA021C766887F82C04E14
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman
2. Title: Aistaig Church Books, 1648-1883 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Aistaid (OA Sulz) - Page: FHL Film #1732266/7
3. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Andreas heiratete Zahn, Anna am 16 Aug 1747 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Zahn, Hans Jocob und Klump, Anna) wurde geboren am 12 Nov 1720 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 21 Feb 1774 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: E02F75E7CD5E4F5080EA0DE0CA0DE40950A2
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman
2. Title: Family Search Web Site
3. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Johann Adam Haagen

Johann heiratete Schwartz, Anna Barbara am 4 Nov 1738 in Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Schwartz, Johann Jacob und Nefzer, Anna Elisabetha) wurde geboren um 1714 in Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; getauft am 15 Jun 1714 in Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 1 Aug 1784 in Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 570EF9C78FF14DD6ABBA5611C8D6663FD706
SURNAME
Also spelled Krezenthaler, Krözenthaler.
Searches for this family have not found any other families with this name. It is not known where Ezechiel Christian was from.
OCCUPATION
Chirurgus (surgeon), Gerichtsverwandter (lay member of the court), Heiligenpfleger (church building and grounds superintendent), Gemeindeburgermeister (community mayor), Ober-Zoller.
MARRIAGES
Given his age, it is possible that he was married before the first record found in 1755 - especially since this record does not give his father's name or place of residence.
(1) Ezechiel Christian Krezenthaler, Chirurgus, and Maria Catharina, daughter of Wolfgang Jacob Mornhinweg. [I think this record should say that she was the widow of Wolfgang Jacob Mornhinweg.]
(2)Ezechiel Christian Krözenthaler, surgeon and Oberzoller (Zöller + customs official) in Wildberg, and Maria Barbara, daughter of Johann Friedrich Zahn, Reisiger (rider) and Forstknechts (forest hand?).
DEATH
Herr Ezechiel Christian Krezenthaler, Chirurgus and Heiligenpfleger, died of Auszehrung (consumption/tuberculosis) at age 57 years, 2 months, 16 days.
Sources:
1. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)
2. Title: Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 - Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 (Evangelische Kirche Wildberg, BW)
3. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)

Ezechiel heiratete Zahn, Maria Barbara am 9 Mai 1755 in Wildberg, Kreis Calw, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Maria (Tochter von Zahn, Johann Friedrich und Baitinger, Anna Catharina) wurde geboren am 25 Nov 1735 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 13 Jul 1787 in Wildberg, Kreis Calw, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: F4CC7F75FBD7461F83C312B31209A3E89CD4
DEATH: Frau Maria Barbara, wife of the late Ezechiel Christian Krezenthaler, Chirurgi and Gerichtsverwandter (lay member of the court), died of Auszehrung (consumption/tuberculosis) at age 51 years, 8 months, less 12 days.
Sources:
1. Title: Heimsheim Church Books, 1640-1934 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Heimsheim (OA Leonberg)
2. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)
3. Title: Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 - Wildberg Church Books, 1558-1968 (Evangelische Kirche Wildberg, BW)
4. Title: Ortssippenbuch Oberjettingen mit Sindlingen, Kreis Böblingen, Württemberg, 1488-1989 - Ernst Christian Haag
5. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)

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Karen Abel:
UID: 06300687FB694925800CAFECFD733B61C8FB
OCCUPATION
Cronenwirth (Crown landlord) and Bäck (baker).
NOTE
On his own marriage record in June 1733 Johannes is referred to as a Cronenwirth from Glatten. On the marriage record for his son Christian Friedrich in August 1733 it says: Johann Harr, former Cronenwirth and Gerichtsverwandter of Glatten, now Bürger and Erbemüller (?) in Rötenbach
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman
2. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Johannes heiratete Gläser, Anna Catharina am 24 Jul 1703 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Gläser, Christian und Seeger, Anna) wurde geboren am 3 Apr 1681 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 1 Aug 1732 in Glatten, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 5355D83394254255A08E6F082F58FED603E4
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman
2. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

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Karen Abel:
UID: 3D297E321C904D1DAB19AA5F162C70B35E79
Sources:
1. Title: Alpirsbach Church Books, 1596-1903 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Alpirsbach (OA Oberndorf)

Simon heiratete Lieb, Anna Margaretha am 28 Apr 1711 in Freudenstadt, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Lieb, Hans Jacob und Lieb, Anna Barbara - wife of) wurde geboren am 6 Jul 1687 in Freudenstadt, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 16 Nov 1770 in Alpirsbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 214DFDB22EC04721B0E948C12635A15B6CF2
Sources:
1. Title: Alpirsbach Church Books, 1596-1903 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Alpirsbach (OA Oberndorf)
2. Title: Quellenbuch Freudenstadt - Author: Günther Frey, 1989 - Publication: FHL Film #1884470

Hans heiratete Lehmann, Anna Maria. Anna (Tochter von Lehmann, Martin Andreas und Schweikher, Dorothea) wurde geboren in 1686; gestorben in 1736. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 33C7B97BD6474068B7CB25C2C12B70F0A8B5
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)
2. Title: Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach, 1659-1920 - Heide Clausecker and Horst Bruns - Möckmühl, Germany, 2004
3. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt) -From marriage records

Hans heiratete Klump, Anna am 19 Mai 1708 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna (Tochter von Klump, Peter und Kuohn, Catharina) wurde geboren am 9 Aug 1682 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 12 Nov 1766 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: EF82AA76DA2543EB97A3CE6A62A4580593C4
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt) - 84 years, 3 months, 2d

Johann heiratete Nefzer, Anna Elisabetha am 24 Apr 1708 in Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna wurde geboren am 3 Sep 1680 in Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; getauft am 3 Sep 1680 in Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 30 Jan 1730 in Bittenfeld, Rems-Murr-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 365904F225FF4F37B43869ADFB8870D6FA08
OCCUPATION
Reisiger (rider), Forstknecht (forester), Hufschmied (blacksmith, farrier), Gerichtsverwandter, Burgermeister.
MARRIAGE
Joh. Friedrich, a Huffschmied (blacksmith), son of Friecrich Zahn genannt (known as) Jäger (hunter) with the profession of Jäger, and Anna Catharina, daughter of Johann Baitinger.
NOTE
There is a lot of ink bleed-through and water damage in the records, making it difficult to find other children born to them.
DEATH
At age 63 years less 2 months, Malodie am Fuß (malady of the foot).
Sources:
1. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)

Johann heiratete Baitinger, Anna Catharina am 15 Aug 1719 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Anna wurde geboren am 12 Dez 1701 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 5 Feb 1769 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 794A0F75AE4243C3B76AE8993C7DD49F0BD9
DEATH: Anna Catharina, widow of Joh. Fried. Zahn, at age 67 years, 1 month, 24 days.
Sources:
1. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)

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Karen Abel:
UID: BAF69FBA5FB64FBD8FD53A94AAB49D378EEF
Born: 16 Jan 1653/54
Death: 23 Mar 1737/38
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman
2. Title: Glatten Church Books, 1558-1991 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Glatten (AG Freudenstadt)

Hans heiratete Harr, Lucia - wife of geschätzt 1679 in ,,, Deutschland. Lucia wurde geboren um 1660 in ,,, Deutschland; gestorben am 6 Dez 1693 in ,,, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 3A17D623D1424836934E3510337F31AD916C
Sources:
1. Title: Ralph Wiseman

Christian heiratete Seeger, Anna. Anna (Tochter von Seeger, Michael und Fruoth, Anna Maria) wurde geboren in 1658; gestorben in 1730. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Simon heiratete Glock, Anna Maria. Anna (Tochter von Glock, Fritz) wurde geboren am 11 Jan 1644 in Heidelberg, Kreis Heidelberg, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben in Jan 1732 in Richen, Kreis Heilbronn, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; wurde beigesetzt am 19 Jan 1732 in Richen, Kreis Heilbronn, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: B017898577384BC783DD650E130ED8B51723
OCCUPATION
Various occcupations are shown on his children's birth records, including: Händelsmann (shopkeeper), des Rats (Rathsverwandter=member of the town council), and Hirschwirt (proprietor of the Stag Inn). Most commonly, and on his death record, he was shown as Löwenwirt (proprietor of the Lions Inn).
BIRTH -Record from Johann Jacob
Father's occupation given as Metzger, Mother: Anna Barbara.
Sources:
1. Title: Quellenbuch Freudenstadt - Author: Günther Frey, 1989 - Publication: FHL Film #1884470
2. Title: Stadt Freudenstadt--Familien von 1600 bis 1820 - Zugleich Band 33 der württembergischen Ortssippenbücher

Hans heiratete Lieb, Anna Barbara - wife of. Anna wurde geboren in 1662; gestorben am 17 Okt 1745 in Freudenstadt, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 58C4BDB08E09419493A452E7C5E4027484C6
DEATH: Age at death: 83 years.

Jacob heiratete Güring, Anna Barbara - wife of. Anna wurde geboren in 1663; und gestorben. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Martin heiratete Schweikher, Dorothea am 17 Jul 1682 in Fluorn, Kreis Rottweil, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Dorothea (Tochter von Schweikher, Johannes und Wagner, Maria) wurde geboren um 1661 in Fluorn, Kreis Rottweil, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 24 Jun 1707 in Fluorn, Kreis Rottweil, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Dorothea Schweickher

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Karen Abel:
UID: 722832B577534B0EBACD1BEE702329D7C7FB
COMMUNION RECORDS
Jacob Zahn first appears in communion records in 1674.
FATHER
According to the Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach, Jacob's father was Jacob Zahn, Schneider in Grömbach.
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

Jacob heiratete Steininger, Lucia am 11 Feb 1679. Lucia (Tochter von Steininger, Jerg) wurde geboren um 1653; gestorben am 6 Jan 1734 in Grömbach, Kreis Freudenstadt, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 2139A0CE58434D5F9C5EFE939B024F890FD5
Death: 6 Jan 1733/34
Sources:
1. Title: Grömbach Church Books, 1658-1984 - Author: Evangelische Kirche Grömbach (OA Freudenstadt)

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Karen Abel:
Married: 11 Feb 1678/79

Peter heiratete Kuohn, Catharina. Catharina wurde geboren in 1653; gestorben in 1727. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

Anderer Ereignisse und Attribute:

• Alias-Name: Catharina Kuon

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Karen Abel:
UID: D20917A2F4224769B540A6BDD50BEB81FE49
MARRIAGE
Friedrich, son of the deceased Jacob Zahn from Grömbach, and Catharina Barbara, daughter of the deceased Georg Meyer.
HISTORY
From Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach.
Died in Sulzer Tal. Burger and Bauer in Oberjettingen, Forstknecht and Jäger in 1713-1724.
DEATH
Was shot while in the Sulzer Tal. On the 4th of January about 8 am, the honorable, valiant and well-regarded Friedrich Zahn, well-deserved forester from here.. as he wanted to travel nearer to Sulz in his employment, in the same valley, without question from godless poachers.. there shot him and he fell on the spot. He was brought here from there..and was buried on January 6th at midday.
Sources:
1. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)
2. Title: Ortssippenbuch Kirchspiel Grömbach, 1659-1920 - Heide Clausecker and Horst Bruns - Möckmühl, 2004

Johann heiratete Meyer, Catharina Barbara am 25 Okt 1698 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. Catharina (Tochter von Meyer, Georg) wurde geboren am 9 Mai 1677 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland; gestorben am 17 Dez 1755 in Oberjettingen, Kreis Böblingen, Baden-Württemberg, Deutschland. [Familienblatt] [Familientafel]

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Karen Abel:
UID: 27C3C08907604DB1876E9ADD54EADE4C6C3E
Sources:
1. Title: Oberjettingen Church Books, 1558-1903 - Evangelische Kirche Oberjettingen (OA Herrenberg)
2. Title: Ortssippenbuch Oberjettingen mit Sindlingen, Kreis Böblingen, Württemberg, 1488-1989 - Ernst Christian Haag